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		<title>By: Stormbull</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 13:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fascinating statement of what some contemporary philosophers call the KK principle,

i.e. 

that if i know something, then for it to count as knowledge i must know that i know it (kk - know that i know)  

i would say this is not the case

for example, say someone goes into an exam, and answers everyting, and when outside is asked, &#039;how did you think it went?&#039; honestly replies. &#039;well it was a tough exam, and im not sure if i did well.&#039;

later it turns out they have aced the exam, with an A++ result 

well we would say, yeah they knew the subject, yet they are unsure that they know it, breaking the kk principle

haveing said that, there must be a concept stronger than knowledge then, perhaps we should reserve the name &#039;certainty&#039; for it.  where we are somehow sure of what it turns out we know.  

there may be a further distinction to make between &#039;certain&#039; and &#039;demonstrably certain&#039; where not only are you sure, but you can demonstrate the basis of the certainty. although in practice, that is actually very rare indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascinating statement of what some contemporary philosophers call the KK principle,</p>
<p>i.e. </p>
<p>that if i know something, then for it to count as knowledge i must know that i know it (kk &#8211; know that i know)  </p>
<p>i would say this is not the case</p>
<p>for example, say someone goes into an exam, and answers everyting, and when outside is asked, &#8216;how did you think it went?&#8217; honestly replies. &#8216;well it was a tough exam, and im not sure if i did well.&#8217;</p>
<p>later it turns out they have aced the exam, with an A++ result </p>
<p>well we would say, yeah they knew the subject, yet they are unsure that they know it, breaking the kk principle</p>
<p>haveing said that, there must be a concept stronger than knowledge then, perhaps we should reserve the name &#8216;certainty&#8217; for it.  where we are somehow sure of what it turns out we know.  </p>
<p>there may be a further distinction to make between &#8216;certain&#8217; and &#8216;demonstrably certain&#8217; where not only are you sure, but you can demonstrate the basis of the certainty. although in practice, that is actually very rare indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: squirrl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very deep my friend, love it very much.

listen to me, my son, said the devil
while he placed his hand upon my head

Edgar A. Poe
from &quot;Silence-a fabel&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very deep my friend, love it very much.</p>
<p>listen to me, my son, said the devil<br />
while he placed his hand upon my head</p>
<p>Edgar A. Poe<br />
from &#8220;Silence-a fabel&#8221;</p>
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